Highly recommend https://obsidian.md/ for note taking, brain dumps, writing, second brain, code snippet storage, personal diary and so on.
The local storage system in markdown is the right solution for something so personal and one would never guess how simple the storage is just by using the app interface.
The more I use it the more I love it.
@david Notion but I never felt comfortable with storing personal stuff there. So, I had to stop myself from writing there. I had some local texts, code snippets, etc but directory structure always made me feel disorganized and forgetting that I already had something on the topic somewhere.
@hugo I use Zim wiki ... it uses plain files with standard markup, it's fast, smooth, and extensible (although I use the vanilla version).
I tried Tiddly, and definitely prefer Zim. It's is mostly as a staging post as things go into my own homebrew system, but it's useful in its own right.
@hugo I've tried notion but it always seemed harder to me to use when just writing. I mainly use Joplin now, but have tried quite a few other note tools.
I've never gotten really good with an interlinked note system. I'm slowly trying to build one as a WordPress plugin for people who would be interested in posting things publicly to their existing sites
@hugo I just use it to draft newsletters and blog posts and client notes. I keep thinking that I could find something better but don't know what would fit me best honestly
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@hugo i've been using Obsidian for a couple months now and i've dropped every other note-taking gizmo and use it exclusively now. it's pretty amazing.
some of the plugins, like for kanban boards, are 🤯
@hugo I’ve been using Standard Notes for a while. But recently started exploring Obsidian for the reason you note: lack of the ability to link information.
However, I’ve started using Zettlr for my ping form writing and that also allows for internal links between notes. So need to do more reading to understand the pros and cons.
@robert I haven't used Zettlr but by a glance on the website it looks good to me too.
For me the feature that made me first try Obsidian is that the data is stored in markdown files in a folder and I can go there and edit them without the Obsidian app. It really feels like the data is mine. Not sure how Zettlr does its storage but I like the concept of having files and knowing where they are, it's simple and obvious.
@hugo Agreed. I was using Scrivener and while it stores content as rft files, it does so in a labyrinth of folders with names such as "1ADC0EAD-3F8D-46F8-B270-2B2A7946B1C7".
Zettlr works in a similar way to Obsidian in that you simply point it at a folder (workspace) and it indexes everything under it. Move / rename something in Zettlr , and it moves / renames in your file system.
But I think Obsidian does a better job at displaying the mapping of connections. But still learning about both.
@hugo I was using Joplin to replace Onenote, but looking at Obsidian, it seems it could do the same thing as well.
@hugo I have tried obsidian.md and generally liked it -- the ability to link notes and insert tags directly in the text is very useful.
However, there's a few unsafe bits to iron out (the plugin architecture, for example, though one can simply not use plugins), and there's also the fact that it is just plain-text.
For my use cases, I had to return to Standard Notes (which is pretty awesome, though missing the hyperlinks, sadly).
@pwseo Yep, I ended up disabling plugins with Obsidian. For my use case it works fine without them but haven't tried Standard Notes.
@hugo Standard Notes has the advantage of being fully encrypted. I use it at work (where I have limited ability to install applications) and take notes that often include sensitive information, so it's a better fit for me than Obsidian :)
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